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A Place to hide. Many wizards and witches, especially Muggle born, needed one good place to hide during the Second Wizarding War after the Muggle-Born Registration Commission was set up by the Ministry of Magic following Lord Voldemort's takeover on 1 August, 1997. In your opinion, what makes a location the perfect hiding location during these dark times and how would you conceal that location even further?


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Well first of all, I would pick a place I had never been and never talked about with anyone else. It would definitely be out of the country and possibly even be out of Europe. In fact it would most likely be off continent. Jobs and school would not be taken into consideration, because there would be time for all of that after the danger had passed. Being a witch, I could create most of what I needed to survive anyway.

I would also cast all the spells that Hermione had cast on their camp sites: Protego totalum, Salvio Hexia, the Muggle-Repelling Charm, the Muffliato Charm, Cave inimicum, and the Disillusionment Charm. I would also not have any communications, except for my closest relatives and never reveal y location to them. Oh yes I would also be the secret keeper of the location. I think that is important and buying invisibility cloaks for my whole family, regardless of the amount of gold it cost me.

[wc – 165]


 

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First I would leave Europe and head to America, the sheer size of the country is an advantage, Upon arrival I would find a place in the middle of no where far from any town or other dwellings perhaps in the mountains. With water and enough land to grow my own food and keep enough livestock to sustain me and my family. I would make it unplotable first off, cast muggle repelling charm, Protego totalum and Fianto Duri to make as strong a barrier as I possibly could, Cave inimicum so no one could, see, hear, or smell, anything within the boundary's, and lastly Salvio hexia to deflect hexes. Once I had all that done we would not need to leave the boundaries nor would we use magic any more then absolutely necessary (magic leaves traces). I would hopefully have convinced friends who I was closest to to flee with me and have them and their families safe with me a mini temporary commune so to speak as their can be safety in numbers just as their can be risk
(WC 180)
 

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I would have to agree with Sandie! Her idea of leaving Europe and heading to America is idea since all the problems are in Europe.

I would leave the United Kingdom and flee to the United States in an open or mountain area not inhabitant by people and use spells to hide my whereabouts. I would have to pack beforehand like food, clothes, and gear for outdoors. I would want to be near running water. I would have to somehow find a means of communication. I would map out the location and know the surrounding area and what’s available for food and shelter. It would take some planning and having a second place for in case of emergencies if I need to flee. I need to plan ahead to explore areas to move to for supplies and food. I think that having various places to hide will increase my chances of escaping these Dark Times. Also practicing an escape plan and maybe creating objects like the coins Hermione created, to transport you to another location. It’s all about planning and being ready for unpredictable moments.

[WC: 187]
 

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I'll have to disagree with everyone who's posted so far; I feel that using spells and charms would draw more attention instead of concealing myself.

Instead of going through the usual routine many witches and wizards are bound to do, I'd rather head straight to a major Muggle city. Fleeing Europe sounds like a good idea; and in a glitzy place like Las Vegas, New York, nobody would look at you twice for funky clothes or odd habits. Hiding in plain sight would probably be the best option, as which Death Eater even wants to mingle with Muggles?

Or even a circus with a Disneyland concept. Think about it, when you see someone in a costume, you don't stop to think who's in it- you automatically dismiss the person from mind. People don't see you- they only see a suit.

Contrasting Kestrel's post, I think jobs and school is a must. Not only would it reinforce your Muggle cover, it would be a convenient way to pick up on news of what is happening in Europe, instead of isolating yourself in a village without outside communication. This way, you know if Death Eaters are hunting outside of Europe itself.
My way of making it safer? Decorate. Hang a ton of Muggle decorations for Christmas, etc. Essentially blend in as a slightly-cuckoo Muggle, ahah.

Edit: WC- 223

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I'm going to have to agree with Sora here. I think using as little magic as possible is the best idea you can have. I also think that somewhere either very crowded or very abandoned are both good choices for different reasons. Big cities provide a lot of cover and options on hiding places, while some less populated areas might not even cross people's minds.

Myself and whatever family I could get would assume 100% Muggle lives, at least until things got better. However, big families should probably not stay together, and might need to split up, but as long as they use Muggle communications, they could stay in touch and visit sometimes. I would assure them that this wasn't forever, and would also keep doing any research I could to find a way around all the bad, but I think it would at least be safe for the time being.

Overall, though, I agree that leaving Europe is the first step in the process, but leaving by non-magical means.
 

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In line with what TheBaddestBlonde mentioned, large families might face difficulties hiding. In that case, there might be a pretty simple solution: Hotels.

Assuming a large family sets up a chalet/hotel business, they could pose as staff or vacationers, going in and out of their own community as they please, and nobody would bat an eye. They wouldn’t even have to split up to hide- again, simply living in plain view. That way, you could choose to set up the business in an isolated holiday area, or a major city near the local attractions with lots of regular Muggles as cover. Alternatively, they could do something travel-related- some could pose as photographers, journalists, etc. which would also guarantee keeping abreast of any major international news. That way, smaller family units can keep moving around in the Muggle world with the kids following where their parents take them under the pretext of ‘work’.

WC- 152
 

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Sora Shiro pretty much has the same idea as me, but I would worry about taking a job where people would want to look at me and take pictures with me, like working at Disneyland.

I would move to the nearest big city because I would want to blend in with Muggles. I would try to use magic as little as possible, so that the trace of it wouldn’t be too obvious. Since the assumption is that I was a Muggle-born then it should be easy to fit in and get the things I needed. I would use a fake name, but find a job so that I had something to do and sustain myself without magic. I would still stay aloof though, not creating any real friendships or keeping in contact with people I knew before the move. My hope would be to appear like a Muggle, but make sure that no one else would get hurt if I did get caught.

[WC:163]
 

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I like the ideas put forward by FreyaHunter that hiding in a Muggle city and trying to blend in and live without magic would be the safest way forward. One of the best ways to hide things is to put them with lots of similar things so that they don't stand out.
With that in mind I am torn between trying to live as a Muggle in a city like London, where I would be able to fit in easily, using the knowledge I would have from growing up with Muggle parents or trying to leave the UK and find a city somewhere else to hide out. This would be an advantage as the wizarding war would have less of an impact abroad but I would stand out much much more in a different country. Where ever I went I would need to blend in the with the local Muggles so I would find myself a job and become a member of the local community.
[WC: 165]
 

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I would try to use magic as little as possible

This wouldn't even work. You'd really need to use no magic, not as little as possible. Even the first hint of some kind of magic would make your presence known, and then you'd be on the road again. I'd hate to have to move around too much. Also, you have to be careful, in any situation, not to say Voldemort's name.

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With that in mind I am torn between trying to live as a Muggle in a city like London, where I would be able to fit in easily, using the knowledge I would have from growing up with Muggle parents or trying to leave the UK and find a city somewhere else to hide out.

I don't think staying in the UK is a smart idea. I would want to get as far away from all the chaos as possible. That said, it's possible that going to another continent and taking up residence would be the best idea, and despite not using magic, you could possibly find your way to that country's ministry and take refuge. They could help you come up with a new identity and such.

One other option, of course, is to join Voldemort. If you're a pureblood who doesn't have any kind of reputation as a "Muggle lover", you could definitely join that side and lay as low as possible. You'd be completely overlooked as long as you did as you were told.
 

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One other option, of course, is to join Voldemort. If you're a pureblood who doesn't have any kind of reputation as a "Muggle lover", you could definitely join that side and lay as low as possible. You'd be completely overlooked as long as you did as you were told.



I have to say that might really work; a different way of hiding in plain view. However, some people might not have the stomach to do that, and to quote Martin Luther King, Jr: "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it."

In which case you might well be persecuted for helping the Death Eaters by anyone seeking revenge in the future.

As for the point of not using any magic at all, you could actually get around that a little:
A place which has been known for magical reverberations of times past, such as an old Quidditch training ground, or wizarding ancestral homes. If you lived near the area, it wouldn’t be too far a stretch to imagine some remnant of spells might be left over, especially if you get another wizard to cast spells for you. Preferably someone who lives far, far away, of course!

[ WC - 170 ]
 

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One other option, of course, is to join Voldemort. If you're a pureblood who doesn't have any kind of reputation as a "Muggle lover", you could definitely join that side and lay as low as possible. You'd be completely overlooked as long as you did as you were told.



I have to say that might really work; a different way of hiding in plain view. However, some people might not have the stomach to do that, and to quote Martin Luther King, Jr: "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it."

In which case you might well be persecuted for helping the Death Eaters by anyone seeking revenge in the future.

As for the point of not using any magic at all, you could actually get around that a little:
A place which has been known for magical reverberations of times past, such as an old Quidditch training ground, or wizarding ancestral homes. If you lived near the area, it wouldn’t be too far a stretch to imagine some remnant of spells might be left over, especially if you get another wizard to cast spells for you. Preferably someone who lives far, far away, of course!

[ WC - 170 ]

Oh I absolutely agree, but also when you're in a position like that, it can likely be forgiven later. If you remember the Nuremberg trials where the Nazi commanders and soldiers had to answer for their actions, many of them had claimed that they had no choice but do what they were told. A whole host of studies was done on that by Milgram, and it was shown that authority like that is impossible to not listen to. Whether because of fear or naivety or whatever, they will always follow if they need to. Not that it's the right thing to do, but it's completely logical and not at all unheard of. With that kind of knowledge, though, it's easier to see the followers in a different way than the leader. So not all followers would be persecuted, I'd think.

As for the magic, I agree that could happen, but you'd need to be extremely careful because sure, there might be magical remnants already there, but it would still show if there was extra, new magic being performed. If that showed up on a trace of some sort, they might even go check it out just in case. Or they could have thought of it in advance and already be waiting there.
 

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I agree with Sora Shiro. I think using spells or charms would draw attention to where you were hiding.
As much as I would like to head off by myself, that would draw more attention to me. I would find a medium sized city on another continent (like Australia) and live there. I could get lost in the shuffle of people. I would try and blend in the best that I could. I would wear muggle clothes, find a job, rent an apartment and learn to cook without magic. It would be difficult at first. Learning to do things without magic and also trying to find a job and a place to live without references.
I think if I gave the landlord several months rent up front I might have better luck while trying to find a job. I might start out trying to get a job at a muggle fast food place. They always seem to need help. I could always say it was my first job as I was taking care of my sick mother. I would also try and keep a low profile in general. I would try and make people think I was boring so they would not ask many questions or draw attention to me.
How long we would be safe elsewhere is another question. At some point Voldemort will realize that witches and wizards are vanishing. He would try and track us down. Hopefully by that time we would have learned to be just like the muggles we lived around.
WC 237
 

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The first need associated with a safe hiding space is that you can get to it quickly... like as the bad guys are kicking in the front door you can 'go to ground.' So I would put my hidey hole in the basement. It would be behind a very solid looking wall with lots of bookcases and storage shelving in front of it. It would open only by verbal spell/word. It would slide back in place and the dust and cobwebs would be enchanted to replace themselves instantly as if nothing had disturbed them in months if not years.
It would also be enchanted with spells to make it undetectable and unplottable, and cannot be apparated into.
The bunker would be equipped like the old bomb shelters of the cold war so that people could stay there for fairly extended periods of time. It would also have a portal/port key so that should they be discovered even in that sanctuary they could still get out and not be trapped there. There should also be a physical "back door" that tunnels out for a couple of miles and comes out in an covered/secure place and cannot be entered from the outside into the sanctuary by the back door.

 

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The most perfect hiding place would probably be somewhere in the muggle world. Somewhere that is highly populated, so they can easily blend in. Of course, they would have to make some changes to their dress robe and how they behave in public, but I really doubt that many would look there for them. Muggles have always been among the last place to look for magical folk, so it would be a pretty good place to hide. To further strengthen this, I would cast the disillusionment spell and also other protection spells on the individuals and whatever specific location they chose within this muggle populated area. I may even change my appearence, so nobody could identify me. I would always be prepared to battle if things came down to that and always have my wand sort of close, but concealed, so that it couldn't be known that I was magical. Other than that, I feel like I would be safe around the people I was raised around, so there wouldn't be much more that needs to be done.

[WC: 178]
 

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